Venom: an honest deconstruction of Spider-Man's fan-favorite villain's origin
I gotta be honest. There is definitely an appeal to having an indefinite canonical origin for The Joker. It's just better if he comes out of nowhere, really. Now, Venom is from an era when villain origins could be built to last, and his had a lot of build-up. It's sorta cool that in 1984 you have the first half before you even know you'll have a second half: I'm talking, of course, about Spider-Man's black costume, and the symbiote from space it was revealed to be.
In our discussion, aside from a distaste for the inconsistent depictions in Todd McFarlane's earliest issues, my partner Anji was more perturbed at how the alien costume only had a 'heel turn,' because Marvel intended to dispose of the design. Before it was really in any stories, the new black design had evoked a vocal backlash. A few months in, and seeing Spider-Man in action in the new costume was grabbing new fans. Her point though:
In Web of Spider-Man #1, the costume/ symbiote has now revealed itself not only desirous of bonding permanently with Peter Parker: it's growing to care about who he cares about, who he's thinking about as he believes he's sacrificing his life. Her point was, the symbiote could've been a more complex character on its own, even if it remained non-verbal!
In my mind, if they needed it for an antagonist, it might've been fun to have the suit just popping up with a new host unexpectedly and occasionally in Peter's life. It could've been epic.
So this one's a history of Venom in minutes: The criticisms of its inexplicable subservience to Eddie Brock's insane hatred (and insanity can lead to some pretty cringe villain motives) follow in the video. If you're not ready to laugh about McFarlane's rookie effort, you might want to just make these ideas your take away. Feel free to express your own opinion, too: i know it's not always easy to leave comments in these blogs, and that's why Reddit and other things kind of took their place. Blogging is so 20teens, right? https://youtu.be/MNSqdfBsIGg So here's an hour and a half of discussion (which also includes 'Venom Ate Our Brains" For what's it worth, Anji, if she were the symbiote, would meld with a porn star...seek feeling good! She would actually like to see a story where it's revealed, this is a particularly crazy symbiote, compared to the normals ones. This is the crazy one that decided to pretend to be clothes. And she overall prefers Carnage. If you're gonna go bad....
In our discussion, aside from a distaste for the inconsistent depictions in Todd McFarlane's earliest issues, my partner Anji was more perturbed at how the alien costume only had a 'heel turn,' because Marvel intended to dispose of the design. Before it was really in any stories, the new black design had evoked a vocal backlash. A few months in, and seeing Spider-Man in action in the new costume was grabbing new fans. Her point though:
In Web of Spider-Man #1, the costume/ symbiote has now revealed itself not only desirous of bonding permanently with Peter Parker: it's growing to care about who he cares about, who he's thinking about as he believes he's sacrificing his life. Her point was, the symbiote could've been a more complex character on its own, even if it remained non-verbal!
In my mind, if they needed it for an antagonist, it might've been fun to have the suit just popping up with a new host unexpectedly and occasionally in Peter's life. It could've been epic.
So this one's a history of Venom in minutes: The criticisms of its inexplicable subservience to Eddie Brock's insane hatred (and insanity can lead to some pretty cringe villain motives) follow in the video. If you're not ready to laugh about McFarlane's rookie effort, you might want to just make these ideas your take away. Feel free to express your own opinion, too: i know it's not always easy to leave comments in these blogs, and that's why Reddit and other things kind of took their place. Blogging is so 20teens, right? https://youtu.be/MNSqdfBsIGg So here's an hour and a half of discussion (which also includes 'Venom Ate Our Brains" For what's it worth, Anji, if she were the symbiote, would meld with a porn star...seek feeling good! She would actually like to see a story where it's revealed, this is a particularly crazy symbiote, compared to the normals ones. This is the crazy one that decided to pretend to be clothes. And she overall prefers Carnage. If you're gonna go bad....
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